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The language barrier.

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 16:31
by archangel
I often find the one thing that holds back learning is the learners complete inability to access the terminology. I have read through a number of the posts and in all honesty I have not got a clue what’s being talked about. I know it will come in time, but is there anywhere on the forum where I can find a glossary of terms used? Or are there any good books with a beginners guide to this very enjoyable art.
Many thanks
Daz

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 16:42
by scholadays
There's lots of chitchat about that there odd German stuff.

http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/phpBB2/vi ... ght=german
http://fioredeiliberi.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=40
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/phpBB2/vi ... ght=german

They Germans do love their lists and labels.



But not to worry about the Italian terminology, you'll pick it up easily and as you need it as we progress.

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 16:47
by Abomination
Sometimes I just make them up, just to see if anybody agrees with me. :twisted:

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 16:48
by scholadays
Abomination wrote:Sometimes I just make them up, just to see if anybody agrees with me. :twisted:

Ah, you'll be talking about the likes of Posta di Cavolo then?

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 17:00
by Abomination
scholadays wrote:
Abomination wrote:Sometimes I just make them up, just to see if anybody agrees with me. :twisted:

Ah, you'll be talking about the likes of Posta di Cavolo then?


Let's face it it all sounds like the menu in a trattoria. Linguine riverso, fendente calzone

The Italian is doing me head in

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 19:36
by archangel
Your right Gordon the Italian is messing with my mind. I will have to bring a note book next monday and make notes. :shock:
Daz

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 20:10
by admin
Fendente - Downwards cut with front edge
Sottano - Upwards cut with front OR back edge
Mezzano - Horizontal cut, front edge from the right, back edge from the left
Punta - Thrust
Volta - turn (either of the blade or the body/feet, depending on context)
Incrossada - crossed blades
Reverso - from the left
Posta - a guard position

Here are the main guards for unarmoured longsword:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/ ... temId=6172

Let us know if you have any questions.

Many thanks Emperor

PostPosted: 31 May 2007 22:03
by archangel
Now that s a real help cheers.

By the way i was looking at GS 10 on the site you advised using the sword as a mechanism to put a head lock on.For my sins I am a pressure point instructor as well as jiujutsu and to me it looks like the hilt is being used to put pressure on one of three very painful points on the head, one at the temple notch, one at the a point under the ear that is pinched against the nerve on the jaw bone or one that is very destructive and painful point in the ear itself. As you have been doing this a long time you probably know that already, however it does show me that the points frequently attributed to only eastern arts are found in all fighting systems.
Good stuff. :D
d

PostPosted: 01 Jun 2007 09:25
by scholadays
admin wrote:Fendente - Downwards cut with front edge
Sottano - Upwards cut with front OR back edge
Mezzano - Horizontal cut, front edge from the right, back edge from the left
Punta - Thrust
Volta - turn (either of the blade or the body/feet, depending on context)
Incrossada - crossed blades
Reverso - from the left
Posta - a guard position

Here are the main guards for unarmoured longsword:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/ ... temId=6172

Let us know if you have any questions.

Oh ofr f*ck's sake Matt, how the bloody hell am I going to maintain that air of mysterious ninjamaestro secret knowledge imparted little by little to only the most commited and lucrative students if you're just going to just tell him everything in the first week?

PostPosted: 01 Jun 2007 10:27
by admin
>whispers to Gordon< - that's not everything...

PostPosted: 01 Jun 2007 10:32
by Abomination
admin wrote:>whispers to Gordon< - that's not everything...


Yeah there's the so called unnamed guards, just for starters.

PostPosted: 01 Jun 2007 10:38
by scholadays
admin wrote:>whispers to Gordon< - that's not everything...

It isn't?

Shit.