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need some weapons data

Postby Carletto » 05 Oct 2014 21:10

Hello guys, I'm studying two manuals by Bartolomeo Bertolini, a sabre one and a squadrone (straight sabre) one.
The sabre one seems to deal priamerily with pipeback sabres of the first half of the 19th century, used on foot, so I'd like to know a few data about such weapons, such as average weight x leght ratio.
The second manual deals with the straight sabre used on foot and on horseback (the guy used to fight in Napoleon's heavy cavalry and he was in Egypt and Russia), so again, I'm in need of data for military straight sabres from the Napoleonic era, pics don't tell about the physical realy of the swords.

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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 06 Oct 2014 07:15

Carletto,

I have posted some questions about Bertolini in this topic, because I don't want to distract the original thread.
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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 13 Oct 2014 06:53

Austrian cavalry officer sabre, pipeback, M1845.

Total length, with scabbard: ___________ 95 cm
Total length, without scabbard: ________ 91.6 cm
Blade length: ________________________ 78.0 cm
Weight, with scabbard: _______________ 1610 g
Weight, without scabbard: ____________ 900 g

Source:
http://szablyavivas.blogspot.hu/2014/05 ... ix-sz.html
http://www.wysocki.hu/cikkek/arh2009/fegyvlov.htm

It seems that the above set of data contains some typos:

Width: _____________________________ 4.8 cm (2.8 cm is more likely)
Curvature: __________________________ 5.4 cm
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Postby Ulrich von L...n » 13 Oct 2014 07:03

The same type (M1845, with pictures):
http://galeriasavaria.hu/termekek/reszl ... i-szablya/

Pipeback, blade lenght: 895 mm, width: 27 mm, thickness: 8 mm.

Another one (M1845, with pictures):
http://www.mutargy.com/katalogus/18/kat ... ya/154504/

T-back, with clipped (?) tip, blade length: 86 cm, blade manufactured in Solingen.

And the last one:
http://www.antikapro.hu/waffen/m-1845-l ... 16826.html

Pipeback, blade length: 860 mm, width: 31 mm, blade manufactured in Solingen.
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Re: need some weapons data

Postby Carletto » 13 Oct 2014 20:36

Thanks :)
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