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Postby David Rawlings » 21 Aug 2009 23:37

I meant we'd check with matt and that I wasn't sure if we'd go to the park or not, face stabbing in the theatre I guess:)
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Postby Nikos » 21 Aug 2009 23:38

Okay, well we shall just park up close to the Wallace and see what happens.
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Postby Corpsie » 22 Aug 2009 00:25

I believe the confusion was my fault.

SG-8 (and me) have regular meetings in Regent's Park. We will be fighting there while you guys are at the Wallace Collection.
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Postby Nikos » 22 Aug 2009 00:30

Corpsie wrote:I believe the confusion was my fault.

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Of course it was your fault, be ready for a bunch of mad people hunting you in Regents park with plastic swords! :D

I think actually it was a mix up on many levels, but you can be the scape goat.
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Postby admin » 22 Aug 2009 00:32

Ian, hopefully we can all meet up afterwards for drinks. I don't have your number, but if you drop me a text tomorrow to 07730 785794, then I'll let you know our movements, so to speak.
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Postby Corpsie » 22 Aug 2009 00:33

Typical, I'm all civil and put out a general invite, and nobody accepts. I become the instigator of some cockup and viola.. psychopathic gatecrashers.
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Postby taliabee » 22 Aug 2009 00:39

i'll find you, corpsie, never fear - mwah, hah, hah....(ooh, i've never typed that before...!)

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Postby TheDude » 22 Aug 2009 10:07

Where is the best place to park being as we will be coming along the M4 and looking for somewhere easy to park and then ideally take the tube in?



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Postby Caz » 22 Aug 2009 10:23

TheDude wrote:Where is the best place to park being as we will be coming along the M4 and looking for somewhere easy to park and then ideally take the tube in?
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Kings Mall car park in Hammersmith, it's off Glenthorne Rd,
come off the M4/A4 at the hammersmith gyratory thing, turn up Kings Rd through the shops, then right up Studland St and right into Glenthorne Rd, its not expensive and 3 mins walk from Hammersmith Broadway Tubey thing..
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Postby Nikos » 22 Aug 2009 22:18

I am back, and waiting for my pizza to turn up. A very successful day all round and exactly what I was hoping for. I will be totally honest (as usual, no care for subtlety), I was hugely dissapointed by the models we saw at Fightcamp, I was only hoping that the recommendations that we all made would be taken on board, I can say most definately that they have been.

What was most astonishing was that one of the longsword models today was simply ready to go, nothing to be changed at all, it was exactly what I was looking for. Everything was downsized to a much better scale, comfortable, good PoB, the flex was in the tip as we wanted, but not overly whippy. We kitted up and clubbed eachother hard and used full power thrusts against eachother, excellent. If we could buy 20 of these tomorrow, we would.

The single sword was almost as perfect, with the grip thickness being my only dislike. Well done guys, excellent job, these are clearly ready to go in to production, can't wait to get them in the club!
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Postby admin » 22 Aug 2009 22:36

I'll echo what Nick said - I was also disappointed by the prototypes at FightCamp, but what we saw today were basically exactly what we asked for. I agree about the number 7 longsword, it was ready to put into production (with a rubber tip).
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Postby Fab » 22 Aug 2009 22:41

Good to hear :)

Can't wait to play with these !
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Postby TheDude » 22 Aug 2009 23:05

I am very happy with the new designs. As Matt said, I was also very unimpressed with the models at FC. They were pretty ugly, heavy and looked a little too LARPish. The new designs, especially the no7 was exactly what I have been looking for. The swords handled very much like the Tinker blunts. Nick and I hit each other, full contact with cuts and thrusts and they were excellent. Good handling, fine in the bind, flexible tip and lighter impact on the cut.

We will use these as the baseline for newbs until they are ready or willing to move to steel. For some, this will be as far as they will want to go. Essentially steel will be for those that want to do it and have the correct kit also, nylon for the rest.

As for numbers and ordering, I will be wanting 2 for myself (minimum) and then at least 10 for the club in the first order with additional similar order to follow soon afterwards. We will also be wanting a good number of single handers and separate blades too.
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Postby David Rawlings » 22 Aug 2009 23:41

I was very pleased with the feedback, the only thing we had any disagreement on is the handle on the single sword, and that easy enough sorted.
I told them about the lighter sword before fightcamp, I said, but no one listened :wink:

Bryan's really gone all out on this run though and the end result is spot on.

The major points were six and three were very much like real swords, 2 and 7 were close enough to real swords yet safe enough for "worst case" sparring.
It was a mature argument and I'm going with them on this.

2 and 7 (with the grip of 6) it is. except we'd like the pomel to not come off :wink:

thanks everyone who came down I have a feeling we should do this more often, good empassioned debate, and oddly we eventually seem to come to realise we want the same things:)
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Postby Nikos » 22 Aug 2009 23:42

Indeedy, the no.7 was just excellent. I appreciate that as Dave was saying today only two blades can be put in to production, but the longsword and single hander provide for the most common swords by far, seeing as the blades will be sold separately, I will be modding a number of others for other weapon types, I really think that these plastic training tools will become the benchmark for most weapon types in the club, except for things like rapier that don't need plastics.
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Postby Nikos » 22 Aug 2009 23:45

corporal heidi wrote:2 and 7 (with the grip of 6) it is. except we'd like the pomel to not come off :wink:


I thought the consensus was to keep the 7 as is blade and grip length?
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Postby David Rawlings » 22 Aug 2009 23:49

the grips are the same length on those two, the six wasn't fragile, seven just had a longer blade...i think
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Postby admin » 22 Aug 2009 23:52

7 had a unique pommel though, and it was the lighter weight of that pommel that made a lot of the difference, I think. We want the lighter pommel.
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Postby Nikos » 22 Aug 2009 23:53

corporal heidi wrote:the grips are the same length on those two, the six wasn't fragile, seven just had a longer blade...i think


Six had the longer blade, and I believe a slightly shorter grip (dont remember fully), the general consensus there was that the 7 blade and grip were the best, my opinion was simply that the 7 should be made as is, forgetting the other longsword models completely.
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