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Istruzione sulla Scherma a Cavallo - Weiss - 1830&1837

PostPosted: 03 Dec 2013 09:26
by admin

Re: Istruzione sulla Scherma a Cavallo - Weiss - 1830&1837

PostPosted: 04 Dec 2013 14:04
by Alex Kiermayer
Wow, very interesting. Judging from the illustrations this is a copy of le Marchants method. Have you read into the text? (My Italian is limited to food and basic fencing actions)

Re: Istruzione sulla Scherma a Cavallo - Weiss - 1830&1837

PostPosted: 05 Dec 2013 12:40
by admin
No I haven't had the chance to have a proper read so far, just scanning my eyes through it.

Re: Istruzione sulla Scherma a Cavallo - Weiss - 1830&1837

PostPosted: 05 Dec 2013 13:08
by Alex Kiermayer
It seems that it at least has the same descriptions of cuts and the same divisions of movements.

Re: Istruzione sulla Scherma a Cavallo - Weiss - 1830&1837

PostPosted: 05 Dec 2013 14:34
by Dave Long
The "Parte Terza" also has very similar text: 6 divisions* in line, 6 divisions at speed, attack and defence in line, attack and defense at speed.

Comparing to Le Marchant, we seem to have gained running at heads and lost the "sword arm protect" (in my opinion, a rather poor trade). Le Marchant also addresses (p75) the near side pursuit, which (perhaps due to skimming and very poor italian) I did not find in Weiss.

* I am not sure these are the same exercises: again, it may be poor italian, but Le Marchant gives some individual and 2 vs. 1 exercises while it appears to me that Weiss is always talking about a whole line performing an exercise.