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Hammaborg's equipment for free play and sparring

Postby Roland Warzecha » 07 Apr 2008 12:00

Hi all.

Having experimented a lot trying to find gear which is both appropriate for free play as well as availlable off the rack we would like to present the equipment we have been most content with for over a year now.

See this clip!

All the best,
Roland
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Postby Fab » 07 Apr 2008 13:17

Thanks Roland :)
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Postby Magnus Hagelberg » 07 Apr 2008 13:28

thank you. where did you buy those gloves u said? (lacrosse ones)

nice uniform black look.. anny planns on colloring those leather covers on youre helmets to actually make it easy to see wich one of you is who?
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Postby Paul B » 07 Apr 2008 14:09

Links for retailers would be very handy
.... or I could be completely wrong.

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Postby Fab » 07 Apr 2008 14:17

Roland, how do you reckon the masters jacket would hold to a forceful half-sworded thrust ? Would it spread the impact enough, or would it go almost straight through.

I'm not asking that because I've seen the limits of gambesons in that regard of late. Not at all. Wasn't me.
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Postby scholadays » 07 Apr 2008 14:43

Very nice looking well thought out kit.

What's the total cost?
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Postby Paul B » 07 Apr 2008 19:28

http://www.thetimeseller.com/eng/item/41560.html

negrini do a back of head protector kit that pop-rivets to the mask - for those of us for whom sewing is more dangerous than swordplay
.... or I could be completely wrong.

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Postby Dierk Hagedorn » 07 Apr 2008 20:38

Fab wrote:Roland, how do you reckon the masters jacket would hold to a forceful half-sworded thrust ? Would it spread the impact enough, or would it go almost straight through.

I'm not asking that because I've seen the limits of gambesons in that regard of late. Not at all. Wasn't me.
Actually, for longsword fights we use an additional plastic breast protection since our longswords are not as light or flexible as the I.33 training swords.

When applying halfswording techniques one has to be extra careful, of course. But the real problem would be the real openings –e.g. under the arm, in the palm of the hands, or in the groin–areas that are not too well protected even with our equipment.

@ Paul: There are a lot of links to the featured products on our website.

All the best
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Postby Paul B » 08 Apr 2008 08:48

Cheers Dierk (although you are going to cost me a foutune :D )
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Postby Roland Warzecha » 08 Apr 2008 16:28

Always check out US online shops. The Brine Supercrosse gloves that we use were cheaper to order from the States inspite of customs and shipping.

Total cost?
Let me see:

- fencing master mask for saber lessons (allstar) EUR 150,-
- fencing master vest with 2 leather arms (allstar) EUR 200,-
- gloves (Supercrosse by Brine) EUR 85,- (from US) or 150,- (in Germany)
- inline hockey neck protection (e.g. Bauer) EUR 15,-
- inline girdle (Mission) EUR 45,-
- escreema arm guards EUR 25,-

- buckler EUR 50,-
- single sword by Paul Binns EUR 350,-

Quite an amount if you see it like that.
Better get back to work now and earn some money!

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Postby Nikos » 08 Apr 2008 16:58

Its nice kit, our club uses much the same approach, the coaching jackets are common, mostly the Leon Paul Coaching Plastron with sleeves, field hockey gloves, chest protectors sometimes, we wear brushbutting knee/shin guards, forearm guards are the standard MA ones you get in a MA shop, coaching masks as well. We buy everything off the shelf like Hammaborg. The fencing supplier PBT, which are Hungarian made, but have suppliers in the UK and others are very good, cheapest coaching jackets around, they do padded underarmour and all kinds of goodness. We too have embroidered patches, we are fortunate to have an embroidery shop opposite our work place, but you can even get those on ebay to your spec.
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Postby Fab » 08 Apr 2008 17:26

Speaking of patches, I 'llhave more HEMAC patches made that will be ready for the Dijon event.

I'll bring some to fightcamp too.
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