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Postby Wolfgang Ritter » 23 Oct 2007 13:45

Claus Sørensen wrote:
and it is H.P. Hils


Of course, My mistake! Forgot the "H" :)

I am always interested in hearing what people think about Talhoffer and his manuals! I am currently doing my master thesis on the Thott manual!

But then again the discussion on Ars Gladii's forum got a bit long and with too many speculations! :wink:

Thanks for the debate/discussion! :)

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Claus

I'd be very interested in reading your thesis as well (ahem, dito in english or german.....)!
And yes, the discussion on the Ars Gladii forum got slightly carried away by some personal issues.
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Postby Claus Sørensen » 23 Oct 2007 14:14

Hello Wolfgang and Harry!

It will be in danish! :( But I do have to make a quite extensive summary to go with it! I will send it to you when it is all finished! :)

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Postby Harry » 23 Oct 2007 14:16

HURRAAAAAAAAAAAAA TO CLAUS!
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Postby Wolfgang Ritter » 24 Oct 2007 09:01

Claus Sørensen wrote:Hello Wolfgang and Harry!

It will be in danish! :( But I do have to make a quite extensive summary to go with it! I will send it to you when it is all finished! :)

Best wishes

Claus

Ah, great! Thank you in advance!
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Postby Anders Linnard » 24 Oct 2007 09:17

Claus Sørensen wrote:Hello Wolfgang and Harry!

It will be in danish! :( But I do have to make a quite extensive summary to go with it! I will send it to you when it is all finished! :)

Best wishes

Claus


Fantastic, finally something that excludes the english and germans! :) So can I get a copy somehow?

/Anders - does a freaky dance in front of all the people unable to read Danish
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Postby Harry » 24 Oct 2007 09:50

I am quite sure, that I can read danish, but I am also quite sure, that I won't understand it! ;)
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Postby Andreas Engström » 24 Oct 2007 10:29

No-one understands danish. Not even the Danish. FACT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk

This is absolutely hilarious.

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PS. Oh, and I'd also very much like a copy of Claus' thesis. Even though he doesn't understand it himself.
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Postby Claus Sørensen » 24 Oct 2007 10:58

I don't even understand all they are saying! :lol:

But then again I do suspect that someone in our brother contries have had too much time on their hands!

It really sounds like a Norwegian or swede trying to speak danish!

It does have this slightly "swedish chef" sound(from the muppet show) to it! :lol:

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Postby Andreas Engström » 26 Oct 2007 08:40

Yeah, it's from a norwegian comedy show called "Uti vår hage".. :-)

And I guess it's really only funny to us scandinavians.

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Postby Fab » 26 Oct 2007 11:55

No, it's also funny to us too. Exotic, in a way.
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Postby andreasm » 28 Oct 2007 16:08

Hello all,

i am not so sure that Kal copied Thal. . For me it seems that Kal is more clear in the Lichtenauer Line. Its more easy to see the technic behind his pictures. Even easyer if you add the vienna version where you can find nearly every pictur descript in the text of the Lichtenauer teaching.
Thal. , if you said Harry, was a developer of Lichtenauers art. For me most of his pictures are verry cryptic.

@Claus
Kals books are not only Pic. If you look in the Bologna and vienna version you will find text. Only a few pages in Bol but many in the vienna version.
Its verry close to the vD manuscript.

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Postby Claus Sørensen » 28 Oct 2007 20:48

Hello Andreas!
Kals books are not only Pic. If you look in the Bologna and vienna version you will find text. Only a few pages in Bol but many in the vienna version.
Its verry close to the vD manuscript.


I really need to check out the Vienna version then! :)

I must admit that I am guilty of only having read the "common" one. CGM 1507 :(

But it is the same with Talhoffer as you describe with Kal.

Many only read the 1467 version with only pictures and very little text. 1443 and 1459(Thott) both contain Lichtenauer-verses, and the Thott-version even has verses by Meister Talhoffer himself.

Parts of the 1459 Thott-version is as "lichtenauer" as it gets to me! :)

When my master-thesis is finished(hopefully in april 2008 :) ) Perhaps it would be possible to post the summary on the hopefully "new" HEMAC website :)

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Postby Fab » 28 Oct 2007 23:01

Claus Sørensen wrote:When my master-thesis is finished(hopefully in april 2008 :) ) Perhaps it would be possible to post the summary on the hopefully "new" HEMAC website :)

Best Wishes

Claus


And/or maybe to have a lecture about it in Dijon (though late April might be too tense for you) ?
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Postby Wolfgang Ritter » 29 Oct 2007 09:43

Fab wrote:
Claus Sørensen wrote:When my master-thesis is finished(hopefully in april 2008 :) ) Perhaps it would be possible to post the summary on the hopefully "new" HEMAC website :)

Best Wishes

Claus


And/or maybe to have a lecture about it in Dijon (though late April might be too tense for you) ?

Oh yes, that sounds like a good idea!

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Postby andreasm » 02 Nov 2007 15:43

Hi Claus,

Hello Andreas!
Quote:
Kals books are not only Pic. If you look in the Bologna and vienna version you will find text. Only a few pages in Bol but many in the vienna version.
Its verry close to the vD manuscript.

I really need to check out the Vienna version then!

I must admit that I am guilty of only having read the "common" one. CGM 1507

If you have some time, we finish our Kal Projekt hopfully in the next weeks (ok if i say weeks I mean 1 or 2 months :-) ) And that includes the Vienna text :-)

I like to see/hear your master thesis too. Give a loud call when you are ready.

I have to touch my own nose because not looking at the Thalhofer books for a long time.
I have to look more in it. Especially the question is he Lichtenauer or is he not. is verry interesting. He is based on Lichtenauer but did he develop an own style or was he affected by other styles.

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